From warp@whitestar.soark.net Fri Feb 18 13:51:44 2000 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:20:16 -0500 From: Zephaniah E. HullTo: warp@whitestar.soark.net Cc: scorn@tampabay.rr.com, liveisevil@ozemail.com.au, knghtbrd@debian.org, kev@zip.com.au, bhunn@zip.com.au, bcurrie@ot.co.nz, jam@damogran.org, Wench@ladiestf.com Subject: The summary and full log.
I'll try and keep this as brief as possible, so let me start with a quick rundown of who I am..
I am Zephaniah E. Hull <warp@debian.org> AKA Mercury AKA ShadowPouncer[F8S].
I am a developer, for Debian and QuakeForge. I am formerly the 'Interproject Relations Specialist' for the QuakeLives project.
On Thursday, Jan 27th, I was alerted to the release of QuakeLives 2.53. This release was made as a binary patch to 2.52, but lacked any source code. In my opinion this is a violation of both the spirit and letter of the GNU GPL. Even if it weren't, I consider it unethical to attempt to circumvent the GPL in this manner.
I wanted to give Slade the benefit of the doubt on this matter, so I asked several people if they would hold off on any arguments or flames about 2.53 until I had a chance to speak with Slade directly.
After talking to Slade it become quite apparent to me that Slade has no interest in the ethical consequences of this release, relations with other Quake source based projects, or whether or not the release was legal under the GNU GPL or not.
Because of this I have resigned my position as 'Interproject Relations Specialist', and am attempting to make others, including Id Software, Inc's legal department, aware of this ongoing situation.
Attached below is a completely unaltered log of the communications between Slade and myself.
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[ Ed: The following is the verbatim transcript of Mercury's IRC conversation with Slade, which was attached to the email. ]
Mercury: | We need to talk. |
Slade: | gimme a few :) |
Mercury: | We don't really have the time. |
Slade: | gimme a few.. |
Slade: | need to go to the can |
Mercury: | Hurry.. |
Slade: | what do you need? |
Mercury: | Ok, let me start off by saying that the ONLY reason you don't have severe flack coming from four different people right now is that I personally requested that they hold off until I talked to you. |
Slade: | ok |
Slade: | talk to me |
Mercury: | The pure bull shit with the 2.53 binary only release is down right offensive |
Slade: | its legal |
Mercury: | I'll put it simply, source, up on the page, /NOW/ |
Slade: | i've checked it and cross checked it |
Mercury: | No, it is not, the patch program is a drivitive in itself. |
Slade: | i also sent my home phone number to iD software |
Slade: | if they have any problems they can call me personally |
Mercury: | No, you WILL put the source up, now, thats not a choice, or a request. |
Slade: | its legit |
Slade: | i have no reason to have to put it up |
Mercury: | Because thats sure as hell stepping outside what I told you straight out I would leave if things happened. |
Slade: | no gpl violations here |
Mercury: | Explain exactly how the patch program is not a GPL violation? |
Slade: | i checked it out with the buisness software association |
Slade: | the patch program itself is shareware.. thats legit |
Slade: | the strings inside |
Slade: | are considered binarys strings which are not under copywrites |
Mercury: | The strings inside contain a drivitive of the binaries compiled from GPL source, as such you must include source, or a written offer, as covered by the GPL |
Slade: | not according to the BSA |
Mercury: | They are wrong in this case.. |
Slade: | if they are wrong.. iD will tell me so |
Mercury: | This is one of the most underhanded and dishonost tricks I have seen in a LONG time. |
Mercury: | No, /I/ am telling you so! |
Slade: | you're the one that thought the MGL was against the GPL |
Slade: | you're word doesnt hold alot of water |
Mercury: | No, I took the word of another on that, and it took a lot of peering to verify that it was with the GPL |
Slade: | i think the BSA holds more water then you |
Mercury: | I will say this once more, you WILL release the source, and now.. |
Slade: | no, i wont |
Mercury: | Otherwise I am gone, and I will make damn sure everyone knows exactly why. |
Mercury: | And I don't think I'm the only one who will leave over this. |
Slade: | sure you are |